tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post1105793135199535183..comments2024-03-28T09:33:26.444+00:00Comments on No Rock And Roll Fun: Glastonbury: This year, we'll get it rightSimon Hayes Budgenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07084524317888577404noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-42422273874489241642008-06-12T11:10:00.000+00:002008-06-12T11:10:00.000+00:00I went last year and hated the weather. It was exh...I went last year and hated the weather. It was exhausting. I didn't enjoy the experience. That's why I'm not going this year - and I know a lot of my friends feel the same.<BR/><BR/>At the end of the day, it's just been a bad year for Glastonbury, but mostly in a PR sense. I doubt their bottom-line has been impacted that severely. If it's sunny this year, then I think they'll sell out again next year.Duncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15765997413236374448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-69170065608585029732008-06-12T11:05:00.000+00:002008-06-12T11:05:00.000+00:00well, as someone who went last year i didnt think ...well, as someone who went last year i didnt think the weather was 'that' bad at all. honestly. yeah it was quite bad, but ive seen much, much worse at festys. as i said elsewhere, it was no way near as bad as 2005. in most places it was no worse than a waterlogged football pitch.<BR/><BR/>also duncan, reading & leeds capacity is 150,000. by reading i obviously meant both. shouldnt take a genius to work that one out. being a southerner i just don't like to talk about leeds too much...ya know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-49931447500922041262008-06-10T16:20:00.000+00:002008-06-10T16:20:00.000+00:00Oh, and RE the "why did one sell out in hours and ...Oh, and RE the "why did one sell out in hours and the other limp along embarrassingly?" factor - <BR/><BR/>Reading capacity = 80,000<BR/>Glastonbury capacity = 177,000<BR/><BR/>If I recall correctly, Glastonbury out-sold Reading on its first day. It's just that it's limped along beyond that number.Duncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15765997413236374448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-24411796090825862112008-06-10T16:18:00.000+00:002008-06-10T16:18:00.000+00:00I am the absolute centre of the demographic you ta...I am the absolute centre of the demographic you talk about, and I live in Reading. I'm not going to the Festival because 15-year old kids drinking cider and pissing on tents doesn't really appeal. I'd pick Jay-Z over that a hundred times over. But this isn't really about me, it's about the crowds. <BR/><BR/>RATM wouldn't ever headline Glastonbury - they're just too rocky. Not the right type of band. They fit perfectly at Reading, sure, but not Glasto. People aren't buying Glasto tickets because of the weather and the weak lineup. By that I don't just mean Jay-Z, I mean Jay-Z, KoL and the Verve. <BR/><BR/>I really think it's primarily the weather, though. People just don't want to pay £150 to experience the same conditions at the Battle of the Somme, but with a few bands in the background.Duncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15765997413236374448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-874245602503420992008-06-10T08:39:00.000+00:002008-06-10T08:39:00.000+00:00it was like when take that split but with much, mu...<I>it was like when take that split but with much, much more BO.</I><BR/><BR/>and the hair... you can't leave out the hair.Simon Hayes Budgenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07084524317888577404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-82001863664564989922008-06-10T00:10:00.000+00:002008-06-10T00:10:00.000+00:00I don't think enough people care about Rage Agains...I don't think enough people care about Rage Against The Machine to the extent they'd go to a festival purely because they were there. Seriously.<BR/><BR/>well, i beg to disagree. cant stand rage myself but know loads of people who altered plans immediately once reading announced them. they were by far the biggest band of my youth (bigger than oasis, blur, radiohead), in the late 90s. so to a lot of people who are now in their mid-20s, it's a hell of a big deal to have them play their one gig in the uk at reading.<BR/><BR/>i think that unless you were 16 or whatever when they split up last time you probably wouldnt understand. it was like when take that split but with much, much more BO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-16253545966450646412008-06-09T19:18:00.000+00:002008-06-09T19:18:00.000+00:00Simon h b - Read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/...Simon h b -<BR/> <BR/>Read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7443590.stm<BR/> <BR/>They're selling tickets over the counter at HMV now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-51462859563082352722008-06-09T18:50:00.000+00:002008-06-09T18:50:00.000+00:00@anonymousI don't think enough people care about ...@anonymous<BR/>I don't think enough people care about Rage Against The Machine to the extent they'd go to a festival purely because they were there. Seriously. The difference between Reading and Glastonbury is that Glastonbury wanted people to jump through hoops for the tickets, and Reading didn't.<BR/><BR/>I see what you're saying about concrete though, but with 150,000 people or whatever it is in Glastonbury, there isn't going to be any grass. There's going to be precious little ground, never mind unchurned ground. But if the weather's rubbish, and you've got massive concrete blocks with people sat on them, they're going to sink into the mud anyway.<BR/><BR/>@duncan<BR/>Hadn't seen the the HMV thing - are they still flogging leftovers?Simon Hayes Budgenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07084524317888577404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-67351042354058067022008-06-09T16:09:00.000+00:002008-06-09T16:09:00.000+00:00duncan, dont agree with that at all. if that's the...duncan, dont agree with that at all. if that's the case then why did one sell out in hours and the other limp along embarrassingly?<BR/><BR/>reading stole way more thunder than ...last years actual thunder/rain at glasto did.<BR/><BR/>tickets cost the same price, audience is largly made up of the same types of people (ie your average festival goer), lineup was much, much more appealing to your average festival goer...you cant tell me a 20yo indie kid is gonna choose jay z over ratm playing their tour finale, and only UK gig?!<BR/><BR/>reading getting ratm and then announcing it when they did was a shrewd move and it paid off.<BR/><BR/>i do agree that the 'gentrification' of specialist festivals is undoubtedly taking some of the action too, but no way near as much as has been prophesised. unique festivals are the new dot com boomers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-88389442122769076522008-06-09T14:18:00.000+00:002008-06-09T14:18:00.000+00:00Reading didn't steal any thunder - it's simply tha...Reading didn't steal any thunder - it's simply that the market for tickets this year is far more diverse. People are going to more 'specialist' or 'boutique' festivals, rather than the "one-size-fits-all" that is Glastonbury.<BR/><BR/>On a related note, Simon - did you see that Glastonbury are going to be selling tickets in HMV?Duncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15765997413236374448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1930103.post-27610696528911461022008-06-09T13:33:00.000+00:002008-06-09T13:33:00.000+00:00"And while sitting on concrete sleepers might be a..."And while sitting on concrete sleepers might be alright if the weather's good, they're not going to be attractive in pissing-down rain and churning mud, are they?"<BR/><BR/>eh? no! surely if the weather is good, you DON'T want to be sitting on concrete?! you want to sit on grass!<BR/><BR/>if it's bad, then yeah, you DO want to put your stool on a solid surface. rather than into three foot of mud.<BR/><BR/>so i dont realy agree with you there. <BR/><BR/>and, as someone who went last year and didnt think it was anyway near as bad - weatherwise - as it was in 2005, i have to say the weather/lineup arguments this year - to me - look like being a scapegoat for the fact that festivals just arent as popular as the press make them out to be, and that reading stole glasto's thunder by announcing it's line up and selling tickets (and selling out tickets) about three days before glasto did. that's called good pr. if you're reading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com