Rob DaBank has paused to brush a nostalgic tear from his eye and recall the good old days of Glastonbury - all of ten years ago:
"When my wife and I used to set off on the spur of the moment and go fence-jumping into Glastonbury 10 or 11 years ago, it felt so crazy and exciting.
"I think, unfortunately, Glastonbury's lost some of the feeling now. It's still the best festival in the world, but it all has to be planned and organised."
Actually, we were there ten years ago, and the rot had already set in. Mobile phone companies flogging their wares in the market place and ATMs set up next to the toilets.
But still, Rob, if the vibe has left Avalon, is there, perhaps, somewhere we can still recapture that feeling?
Why, yes:
"With the fancy dress and the inflatable church and just our general crazy, eccentricity, I think we've got that old vibe back at Bestival."
How fortunate!