Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Beth Ditto naked statement

This week's NME features Beth Ditto as naked as Avril Lavigne on the cover. For confused but well-intentioned reasons. Those of you with long memories will recall the last time a semi-naked woman was on the front of the NME, it was Lesley Rankine and Silverfish, who were in turn parodying the Polly Jean Harvey cover from a few weeks before. PJ and Beth Ditto were both on the cover as a riposte to traditional ideas of female beauty and societal nomrs - both had hairy armpits, for example.

The trouble is, it's all a bit muddled. Because NME, for all its other faults, doesn't usually have FHM-style covers, so the value of putting Ditto on the front, without pants, is a little lost. Kate Jackson, it's fairly safe to say, hasn't been lined up to slip out of her corset for the next Long Blondes piece, because that would bring a stream of letters calling them for trying to flog magazines with sexist pictures. Likewise, the Twang don't turn up with only a well-positioned tree to preserve their modesty.

So, is NME they saying it's okay for Beth to be on the front nude, because she isn't 'conventionally attractive'? And if that is the case, isn't that simply endorsing the idea of there being 'conventionally attractive' in the first place?

Or does the paper feel that a naked Beth Ditto is, from its reader's point of view, every bit as desirable as, say, a naked Amy Winehouse? In which case, isn't it a little bit Felix Dennis to be selling music magazines with female flesh?

Well meaning, but not thought through.

Which is probably more than you can say for Beth's thoughts in the interview, where she places the blame for women with eating disorders on, erm, gay men:

“If there’s anyone to blame for size zero, it’s not women.

“Blame gay men who work in the fashion industry who want these women as dolls.

“Men don’t know what it feels like to be a woman and be expected to look a particular way. The Beckhams are part of the machine; Paris Hilton is part of the machine.

“There’s that thing Paris Hilton said about Lindsay Lohan – ‘You’re poor, ugly and fat’.

“It’s always women who are victims.”

Isn't this just a tiny bit oversimplistic? After all, a large number of the people who run the fashion industry aren't "gay men" but straight, hyper-capitalist women; the magazines which run fuelled entirely on "celebrity fat bits" and "who's eaten a doughnut" aren't aimed at gay men, but are hoovered up by women; with the fastest rising incidence of eating disorders amongst young men, the "men don't know how it feels" schtick is outmoded and plain wrong; and eating disorders are anyway about far more complex influences than Paris Hilton's clothing range.

Still, you know who isn't to blame? Kate Moss. Before Christmas, of course, Kate Moss was part of the problem, but since then, she's become chums with Beth:
“I spent one night talking to Kate and she said the most amazing things about bodies.

“I didn’t think I was going to like her, but she said, ‘Do you know what I hate, Beth? When people tell my big girlfriends, ‘You have a beautiful face . . .’

“That’s a really radical concept.”

Kate Moss' genuine concern for people who aren't stick thin can be seen in the plus size range of clothes she hasn't designed for Top Shop. To us, it sounds like Moss managed to get away with patronising Ditto without Beth realising it - could that quote have been any more "some of my friends are black"? - but even if Beth did get it, she'd probably have assumed it was an evil, evil gay man throwing his voice.

34 comments:

karlt said...

I assume that the cover shot is supposed to be shocking or thought provoking in some way? The most depressing thing about the whole article is that the interviewer doesn't call Ditto on any of the crap she spouts.

Anonymous said...

gosh, she's a fat minger, isn't she?

Anonymous said...

No, Beth Ditto might be fat, be she's no minger.

Kate Moss is more of a minger than Beth Ditto - just take all make up and production off her, and Kate Moss is at best, just ordinary.

There's lots of skinny mingers out there, but people don't realise that "pretty" and "thin" don't have to go hand-in-hand.

Anonymous said...

tbh this is an amazing cover Beth looks so beautiful, how bold and confident is she!
I think it rocks that she will get her kit off even though she's bound to get slagged off for not being a size 8.
I don't even care what The Gossip's music is like, she rocks

Anonymous said...

I can't believe the NME hires photographers who can't tell the difference between manatees and singers... oh wait... oh ... right... sorry my mistake.

Verity said...

The Gossip's music is great, and I admire Beth Ditto for it. However good it is that she feels confident enough to strip down to the skin, it isn't something we should all be forced to look at if we want to read NME.
There is a 'conventionally attractive' anyone who says there isn't doesn't fit it. I'm not stick thin, but I know I'll never be as pretty as those who are. Then again, perhaps this is just how teenage girls everywhere feel. If guys don't like skinny girls, then they need to say it more. The fat girls need to get the boyfriends, the 'normal' girls need to. But they never do. I know my boyfriend wouldn't love me 1/2 as much if there was twice as much to me.
We live in a shallow society, encouraged by the media and celebrities, get over it.

Beth Ditto, great for you, but put it away!

Anonymous said...

so it really isn't about the music anymore? Utterly disgraceful gimmick from Miss Ditto which completely contradicts everything she gobs on about.

Frankly I think this is also exploitation on the part of the NME. It has nothing to do with music. It has nothing to do with the supposed "idealistic" image of celebrities. All I see is a fat girl who by the looks of it, if she wants to keep on being an active live performer, could really be doing with losing a few pounds for her own health. Beth, if the NME were interested in what you had to say then they wouldn't put a picture of you naked on the cover. You've been exploited, plain and simple.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry but I do think size zeroes are stupid and really horrible to look at but so is this. I'm all for this confidence but there is a limit to being too "curvy"...just as there is to being too skinny. People say the more curves the better...but what's the limit? 8 curves of flab rolls on each side...thought so...

Anonymous said...

"big is beautiful", but please...she could have at least shaved her pits!

Anonymous said...

A case of McNicholas overcompensating for the Ditto Cool List cover debacle?

Alice Bag said...

Beth is one of the sexiest women I know. I know that some people find rail-thin females attractive and that's fine but it doesn't do it for me. Women who are curvaceous are much more attractive to me. Aside from that, women who are curvaceous, intelligent, talented and self-confident have every right to flaunt their sexuality if they want to.

I don't have a problem with any individual appearing naked on the cover of a magazine but I am thrilled to see Beth on this particular cover. She IS the Queen of Cool.

Another super sexy, super talented and confident woman is Candye Kane.

In the early 80's, Candye also posed nude for a magazine, but it wasn't a music magazine. Her photos were considered pornography and were the object of controversy. I'm one of those people who enjoys pornography, strong, talented women, and the female form. Anyway, the point is that both women were sending the same message, which is that they are unabashedly sexual with every part of their beings, from their big, beautiful voices to their big, beautiful bodies.

It's no coincidence that both Candye and Beth are continuing the tradition of the great women blues singers like Bessie Smith. Bessie was just as free and forward with her own sexuality and she was not afraid to express it in her music.

Women like Bessie, Candye and Beth are women's women. They inspire us to let go of the hang-ups of trying to achieve physical perfection. They accept themselves and invite us to accept ourselves. They are bold sexual predators, much more exciting and dangerous than the countless little sex kittens that litter TV and radio.

simon webb said...

Look lads and lasses, the great thing abt Beth is that she has a BIG fat pair of TITS a fat arse and probably a hairy minge. She talks loud and brash but beneath that hard lesbian exterior is a fat girl who would relish some jamacian cock inside her pussy and moth with that hot load dripping all over her face. Poor girl, she is in denial that is all kittens.
xxxxx

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

NME should be ashamed of the opportunism and Beth should be ashamed for not see this as nothing more than exploitation. It's not a statement of feminine power or rallying against the body image, it's a fucking car crash and everyone slowed down for a week to take a look.

Ed said...

Some of these comments are Radio Rental. ;D

Especially the Jamaican one.

Personally, I don't care that much. The NME is bumpaper and The Gossip will probably shift some units from it. Fair enough.

Anonymous said...

Oh the in-hue-Manatee.

W

Anonymous said...

Beth's disturbing nude cover shoot for NME maagzine. http://collegecandy.com/buzz/3628 WARNING: Seriously view at your own risk... shes real fat

molly02026 said...

jayd1313 says:
I am a heterosexual female.
I have just discovered Beth Ditto through Rosie's O'Donnell's blog.
Beth is being compared to Janis Joplin and other great artists.
I find this women to be sensational!
She is bold and beautiful!
Her voice is amazing. She is multitalented and magnetic.
Her naked photo on the cover of NME is incredibly beautiful.
She seems to be headed toward a brilliant future in the entertainment world.
I love her voice. I love her presence.
Go Beth!
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Anonymous said...

After looking at this picture, I am determined to get back onto my diet.

Fat is NOT, I repeat NOT pretty and nobody should flaunt it.

Anonymous said...

Airbrushed to buggery and the pictures on the NME site show she was complicit in this.

How 'right on'

Anonymous said...

Seriously, this is probably one of the best pictures I have ever seen on the front of NME. yeah she might be big girl, but so what? doesnt mean she can't be as or more beautiful than people with perfect figures. shes so pretty naturally.

Anonymous said...

love it! gossip rock!

Anonymous said...

I've no problem with big girls, I think Beth is attractive (certainly not a minger!) and while I wouldn't chose to be that big, I admire (and envy) her being comfortable and happy being how she is.

I think the thing here actually is that she is unhealthy. I don't know how much she weighs but to me she looks obese. That's not healthy and she is setting herself up for all sorts of problems if she doesn't lose weight. She doesn't have to be skinny but I do think she should think about her health.

Gosh, I'm boring aren't i?!